June 14, 2007
Let's Pick a Tattoo
Gino needs our help!
I've been a fan for a long time and remember the very first sighting of tree brain, and the great "Steve Don't Eat It's". But past that, I need some help and I figured you (along with the other Sneeze readers) could help me out.
Now that I'm out of high school, and a full-fledged adult, I'm getting a tattoo on my back. This is where the help comes in. I want to use an Eric Joyner piece of art because robots are the shit, and I wouldn't mind having one of them on me for the rest of my life.
The problem is, which one? My two favorites are I/O Jima and This is This. Both are sweet and would make a great tattoo. If you could help me out, it would be highly appreciated and I would send a picture when it is done.
THIS IS THIS
This is very exciting! Thanks for letting us be involved in this important decision. The following poll is presented for your polling pleasure.
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Gino is leaning toward I/O Jima, but has also told me he's open to your art suggestions, so in addition to the poll the comment board is open. I'm closing the comment board before the spam starts rolling in. Thanks for the feedback, guys.
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Posted by Steven | Archive
"Full-fledged adult" wants a robot tattoo on his back?
No offense to the pictures themselves, but does anyone else find this strange?
its the guys money an if he wants 2 spend it on a robot tattoo he can!
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but we're really just looking for helpful art suggestions here -- like, for example -- "Why isn't Gino considering The Final Blow?!"
personally, I feel the I/O Jima would be kinda offensive to the people that fought for our country. I voted for This Is This.
robot riding a harley?
maybe a naked Hawaiian female robot, like the old naked Hawaiian girl tattoos the old sailors used to get
Maybe he could convince nice guy Eric to make him a unique piece, see... Yeah... and parts of it could be in glow-in-the-dark ink so it has a nice easter-donut to the whole affair. Such as that featured on thecoolhunter dot net
Sorry, but I think either one would make for a lame tattoo. I like them as illustrations but just can't picture them on someone's back. You should hire Mr. Joyner to draw a custom illustration. You know, based on something you are passionate about. I am just not a fan of random tattoos. If you are going to permanently mark your body with "art" it should have some kind of significance. Robots raising a flag or committing suicide? What are you communicating about yourself with one of those?
If one really wanted a tattoo of robots one should really consider The Final Blow, but that's just my opinion.
Just remember that the Flag on I/O Jima will be mighty droopy when Gino reaches 80.
dude, what about rockem' sockem'?? that painting is the sh**!
Is this tattoo gonna be in color? I think both might be hard to pull off in terms of composition and anatomy. I/O seems good for an upper back panorama, but the rocks at the bottom might pose a problem as to how to end the composition. Same with the top of the noose in This is This. Any other options besides these two? Something with a complete and closed composition that the tattoo artist won't have to tinker with might be better...
I think it will look great though!
I'm with Chris (kind of)--you'd better really trust that your tattoo artist can reproduce this detailed art before you get it permanently inscribed in your flesh. While the images are great, they involve a whoooooole lot of detail and would lose a lot in translation if not done, say, by the artist himself.
There's your solution! Just find Joyner and approach him with a needle. Try it. He'll love it.
The hanging robot will work well if the end of the rope is hidden by the hairline, that way it looks like the robot is hanging off the head. The flag raising will work well without the background, which is a plus. And not as depressing.
And there's nothing wrong with random tattoos, I have a monkey hanging off another tattoo and a droopy clock from "Persistence of Memory"
I'm just glad its not my son getting a robot tattoo plastered on his back. I hope you're planning on marrying a dude because no woman is going to appreciate that. But it looks good on you though.........
This is the best idea ever - generally I'm not a fan of tattoos, but I *am* a fan of doing ridiculous things to make others laugh, and this totally fits. Between the two Gino mentioned, I voted for I/O because a donut flag would look awesome on anyone's back. But my favorite Joyner is Propellor Head, although Red Rider, Endless Training, and Swingtown would be pretty sweet, too. If Gino is a man of considerable girth, The Usual Suspects would be a fantastic adornment to his upper back/shoulder area. Regardless, what woman wouldn't want to date a man with a robot tattooed on his body? This is a very smart move, Gino. Call me!
I really REALLY think this kid needs to ask Eric, not Steve, about this.
That artwork BELONGS to Eric, and some random dude just deciding he wants to have it forever isn't really his decision to make.
So yeah. Steve, get Eric involved here.
Like Nora, I want to know if you're looking at a color tattoo, or black and white. I'd also like to know how large you're thinking it should be. Either way, I'm leaning toward I/O Jima, because I think This is This could get "muddy" with the background detail. But hey, I'm not a tattoo artist -- so I'd suggest taking both pics in to your friendly neighborhood tattoo shop and asking the artists what they think.
And I do think the suggestion to ask Joyner to do something custom for you is excellent!
No woman is going to appreciate that? THIS woman would appreciate it. That is why this world is so great. We are all free to appreciate what we want. I vote for I/O Jima
i kind of think he should see if either of them would even make a good tattoo. hasn't anyone seen Miami Ink? they bring in stuff and the artists are like "...uh...yeah no. that would suck as a tattoo"
my opinion? neither. i agree with the above. it has no significance other than "it is really cool" and in that case - buy the print and frame it. i did.
Gino is one cool motherf*cka for getting an Eric Joyner tattoo. I think that I/O is the way to go, I am just jealous for not thinking of it first.
I voted for I/O Jima because I think it would work BETTER as a tattoo than the other one, but I agree with the above posts--neither one of these is tattoo-friendly. Sometimes you fall in love with an image, and you just have to accept that it makes a better full-page illustration than backpiece. Gino, think about what tattoos (good tattoos) look like. They look like that for a reason--because that's what looks good on skin.
Knock yourself out kid! I, Fem-Bot here, am all over tat's. I designed all of mine, but whatever. Do what moves you. Honestly. It's yours and it's going to be with you for a long time. Get what you really love.
Nothing says "I love this image!" like putting a tattoo of it on your back where the only person who will see it some guy while he's boning you.
I vote I/O Jima. Of course, I'd REALLY vote "Final Blow" but seems that isn't an option young Gino wants listed, then Jima it is.
I have well over 40 hours of work done on myself and I have to say the first one is the hardest to decided you feel like its gonne be there forever, what should I get? What does it mean? How will I show it? Where will I put it? What will my parents think? ect... and after that the rest just fall in place.
Tattoos last forever but what a story you will have to tell in your old age in the rest home. .
Actually, I take that back.
If a big tatoo of Eric Joyner was available, then that's what I'd vote for.
Just his face. All face. All Back.
Of the two, I think I/O Jima would be better.. however. I think that something custom would be the best choice. Sure it would cost more because you'd likely have to pay Eric Joyner for his time, but you're going to have to live with this tattoo for at least 3-4 years, so you might as well go whole hog.
P.S dont take youself to seriously! And dont listen to alot of these pople saying negative things they take them selves to seriously. Its just a tattoo.
I'm with the guy who said Joyner should really have a say in this, as it's probably copyrighted material.
You should also find out which one your cellmate prefers, as he'll be the one seeing it the most.
I think you should go with "The Usual Suspects"
Personally I am not a big tattoo guy, but if i was to get one a Joyner themed one would probably be on the top of the list. I rocked one of his art opening posters as my desktop at work for a while. Let me give a piece of advice.... something that seems cool at 18 may or may not seem cool at say.... 25, 35, etc... so you may not want to choose a darker themed robot (i.e. hanging in a cathedral). That being said... Raiders is pretty sweet. Who doesn't love pirates?
I'm honored that you'd want to be tatooed with my art! Thanks!
However, as Nora has pointed out, "I/O seems good for an upper back panorama, but the rocks at the bottom might pose a problem as to how to end the composition. Same with the top of the noose in This is This".
I think maybe the way to solve this problem is to have the tatoo artist design a frame or a border around the picture. Perhaps a very ornate wood carved type or gold leaf? Otherwise you could have the edges soft & fade. Or cut out certain elements & have an irregular shape. In any event, I'd consult a tatoo artist...I know some here in SF...if you don't know any.
Everyone: best wishes & thanks for your help on this very important problem!
Both seem really complicated and hard to pull off, especially with the backgrounds and all. How about Just a robot (no background) holding the donut? That might look good on your bicep.
how bout you an i get together and i let you put something on my back??? wink!!!!
"Surrounded" from the 2005 Tin Robot collection would be an interesting selection. How can you say "no" to flaming donuts?
Also, I don't think getting a tattoo of an image constitutes copyright infringement.
"A tattoo is only as permanent as I am." I vote I/O, and and submit my simultaneous femaleness and appreciation for a robot tattoo. Rock on!
I'm appalled by the copyright Nazis who think that Gino needs permission to copy art for a fucking tatoo. Hey, lets sue every moron with a mickey mouse tat while we're at it, and everyone with a spiderman tatoo, etc.
"It isn't his decision to make?" What self righteous crap. First off, a tat is DEFINITELY, POSITIVELY, and LEGALLY "Fair Use." So it actually IS his decision, and there ain't a damn thing you or anyone else can do about it. Second, who the hell cares? The artist? I doubt it. I don't hear him complaining. Nope, just you, the self proclaimed guardians of copyright, sucking all the life out of our culture by locking every little icon into a perfect stasis box where no one can touch it or pass it on.
DON'T DO IT!
TATOOS are a FAZE!
Please be kind to your skin!
***"adults"*** that have tatoos on their skin do not do well in job interviews!!!!!
GROW UP! Say buh-BYE to the ink man.......
BUY the robot art if you like it and keep it off your skin!!!!!!!
I fought in Iwo ... and if you put that crap art on your back and I see it, I will kick your butt into next week for the disrespect!!!!!!
I agree that Final Blow would make the Best tatoo evAr!! but if I had to choose from the two, its This is This, and make the rope go up under the hairline.
Not a personal fan of out-and-out paintings in tatoo. Have several myself, but they are much simpler (unless you're going for the whole body tells a story kind of thing -- unbelievably cool). But, of course, that's totally personal opinion and only your decision to make. I suggest seeing if Joyner has (or will have for you) something less involved, something maybe even meant for the body. Skin and canvas (or whatever media) are not the same.
I would never take anything away from a veterean and you have my complete and utter respect and appreciation, but didnt you fight for the American way of life which includes the freedom of expression?
I thought I/O was patriotic...that's why I voted for it...but, after reading the comments, I guess that piece of art is disrespectful...or is it just up for interpretation?
Robots make epic tattoos, but why these two? "This is This" screams "EMO" and "I/O Jima" seems overly patriotic. Or disrespectful, depending on your viewpoint.
I'd be looking at others that you're less likely to be judged on. He's got so many other awesome ones to choose from - Fembots, 'bot on a Harley, alla those...
Don't end up in jail with that on your back.
I'm glad Eric brought up the issue that both of these pieces might have compositional problems on a body, and would "end" strangely without a border.
For the most part though, I agree with Sidney.
Gino- with the money you spend on a tattoo, you could (depending on the size you are getting, etc.) buy an original Joyner piece or fill a wall with his high quality (yet affordable!) prints!!
First off.... I vote I/O Jima (with more female tattoo approval to boot!). I think it's great your not just going for something commonly seen, like dragons, tribals and koi -- no offense to those with such tattoos either of course. Don't let the negative comments get to you at all.
"TATOOS are a FAZE!"
Maybe to some, but certainly not all.. It's not like he's picking out flash on the same day he's receiving the tattoo, he's actually putting thought and time into this. Just because he's young doesn't mean he's making a mistake, that's somewhat of a stereotype.
"***"adults"*** that have tatoos on their skin do not do well in job interviews!!!!!"
Uhm... With a back tattoo, the only way that it would affect his interview is if he showed up shirtless. Almost any tattoo that isn't on the face, neck (not covered by hair) or hands can be completely concealed for most lines of work (and this is why tattoo artists are usually very hesitant to do tattoos on the face, hands and feet).
I would definitely suggest (once you've decided on an image... or just take both in even) to discuss the tattoo with the artist who will be needling it for you. Artists like to have a part in the design, and will draw up the final product of the collaboration anyways. They'll have many good ideas of what to do with backgrounds and how to frame it, etc., they're artists after all.
Wow did this board get a little heated. Glad to see Eric weighed in on this though!
Tattoos are definately not a phase. Pokemon was a phase. Tattoos have been around since Man first lost his fur.
Its an expression of your own artistic self, so I would say go with whatever design you feel expresses yourself the most.
In Desert Rider, if you were to take JUST the bike and robot and left out the background, i think that might be cool at the bottom of your back, (so that if you are shirtless, then its like its riding across the top of your pants....
CONGRATS ON GETTING A NEW TATTOO! Eric Joyners work is genuis. I CANNOT wait to see the finished work...PLEASE...POST A PHOTO WHEN COMPLETED!!! I sell Eric's artwork at my store and people LOVE his talent. SO CHEERS ON GETTING A KILLER TATTOO!!! GO FOR IT!!! mb
Count me as one more vote for The Final Blow.
I now realize why the comment board is usually closed. My parents said I can get a neck tattoo if I get my GED. I will get a robot too.
I vote for This is This. I just like it better, because I/O Jima is kinda making fun of a photo that has great meaning.
both of the paintings are up for misinterpritation, so it doesn't matter which one you get, your gonna have to end up explaining it 100 times. that being said, i say you combine them, have it on your back, possibly around the shoulder blade area. put in the robots from I/O JIMA, but replace the flag with the lever that will hang the THIS IS THIS robot, and put a doughnut in the hand of the THIS IS THIS robot.
Those are both really detailed. I don't have any tattoos, but from what I've seen and read, detailed art tends to take a long time.
I imagine it probably hurts a little, too.
I'm kind of iffy on either design. I agree with Nora about the layout issue and the content of both is certainly more charged (not innapropriate, necessarily, but pretty fraught with meaning, intentional and otherwise) so I would be hesitant to put either on me. Both have the potential to become extremely creepy with some sagging/fading... I vote for having joyner do something else.
also I am not against tats but my only friend with more than one tat is against them. Read that how you want.
It seems to me, you'd defintely need to either frame the art or only use the foreground elements.
Oh, as for which one? Uh, that's up to you. I personally would do I/O Jima.
I appreciate and admire all veterans (and if you really fought in Iwo- Good job with that one!), but if you really were in WW2, you're a little past your ass-kicking days.
Steve, your vote box thingy is rather dark...
I think he should get a tattoo of the tree brain...that would really be cool
Eric Joyner rocks! I say choose I/O Jima.
The comment that "adults that have tatoos on their skin do not do well in job interviews!!!!!" is pretty broad. Let's be more specific...if you have a tattoo on your FACE you might not do well in an interview except at your local tattoo shop.
But this guy wants the tattoo on his back, I can't imagine it being a problem in interviews! I am not sure what kind of job interviews YOU have gone on, but I certainly haven't gone to any shirtless.
As a side note, I have five tattoos and none are visible with clothes on. Four of my five are on my back. I have an excellent job at a law firm and my tattoo status was not part of my interview.
It is all about placement...
I don't judge, doing what you want is great! I also have no tattoos, and am not an "art guy". All that said, though I like the originals (and if pressed would vote I/O), I don't think either will look nearly as good rendered unto flesh as on my computer screen. Perhaps you have extremely luminous skin.
I think when you're an old man directing your grandkids to the Wayback Machine so they can find archived versions of the Sneeze on their holo-puters so they can see what that huge wrinkled Monet smudge on your back was supposed to be, it will make you grumpy. But I wish you well.
The point about keeping out of prison, always a good policy, was especially apt. The vet who was apparently fighting fascism for the right to beat up people who have tattoos he disagrees with needs to ask himself if he really thought that through. And then shut up.
And seriously, whatever happened to Tappy? You guys are so fickle.
These are my husband's robot tattoos.
I second the notion that you should take some robot art (or in my husband's case, just the idea for tin robots from the 50's) you like to a tattoo artist whose work you like, and have them tell you what will work. Most would probably say all that background is a no-go (though the robots rock!). Most good ones also prefer to have some kind of input into design and layout. Good luck!! Beware - once you get one, you won't be able to stop...
I think you should take "hot blonde with fake racks" up on her offer.... just a thought. And out of those two I would certainly go for This is This. But hey, thats just me
Just a quick comment to agree with what someone else said, It is good to see what Eric had to say about it, its great to hear from the artist, and their opinions.....
Get whatever the F you want, and don't worry about the copyright police. Eric Joyner himself said go for it. Just be prepared to spend a lot and be in tons of pain. Thats all.
I personally like the first one, but since this guy is asking for some objective advice, honesty is key: I don't know how big this kid is, but I'm from the south, where folks don't cotton to any perceived disrespect to veterans. But if he's on the right side of the Mason-dixon, and/or he's gunning to star in a sequel to Roadhouse, I say the I/O Jima is definitely the way to go. :-)
For a tattoo I like Ring Girl (2006). Unfortunately it is not as obvious of a Joyner piece.
Of the two you're chosen I voted I/O. I better like the message of This is This but is will be hard to convery with a minimal background which is what the tatt artist will likely recommend.
Did I mention that I'm a girl? To the bonehead that made that comment, not only do I like tatts but I'm hot and I pee and poop too.
Gino, I think this is an absolutely fabolous idea and i can't wait to see the finished project. I have a print of I/O Jima in my office and it always makes my day a little awesomer, especially since I work on a psychiatric ward (didn't think it could get awesomer than that, did you?)
dude, doughnuts win every time. i/o jima. the second one's depressing.
this is america, and i think we should all join our obese brothers and sisters in the celebration of one of the word's most fattening foods. woot!
i just wish the doughnut in the painting had chocolate on it =(
who in their right mind wants a picture of someone being hung on their back for all time.
least of all a dead robot. is that even possible?
First off, Steve, the pictures aren't showing up that well. I had to go to the website to see them, especially "This is This". Might be just my machine, though ...
Second off, I agree with everyone who says that it's Gino's skin, and he should be able to decide what he wants to put on it. Yes, that's true, and he certainly has every legal right to do so. But do you really want to walk around for the rest of your life, wearing a picture permanently etched into your skin, that's offensive? I personally think neither would make a good tattoo -- not because of the composition, but because of the subject. A robot that's been hanged is just morbid and emo beyond belief, nor would it set too well with parents trying to enjoy the beach with their children, etc. And "I/O Jima" is a bit disrespectful, if nothing else than because it's a parody of something that's an icon of patriotism and all this country stands for.
Do what you want, it's your decision -- just think about it before you do it. A tattoo is forever; you might not care if yours offends people NOW, but how about ten, twenty, thirty years from now? Don't you think it might get a bit old, to constantly have people approach you and say things that are rude, disrespectful, or even downright cruel?
Third thing, copyright is and should be a concern. Coming from a fellow artist, Eric would well be within his rights to get upset at someone who used his artwork in any way without permission -- both moral and legal. And in this sue-happy world, do you really think it wise to invite such a lawsuit, especially as it's not like a tattoo is the sort of thing you could hide and deny? Some advice: especially as Eric doesn't seem to mind, get WRITTEN PERMISSION before you have this done! That way, if the you-know-what hits the fan, either because of Eric himself or because of an agent / lawyer / friend / whatever of his, you're completely covered. Better safe than sorry.
Glad to see I'm not the only robot lover around...
I'm with Scott! "naked Hawaiian female robot" gets my vote!
I'm not sure that Iwo Jima is appropriate unless you are affliliated with the military. "This is this" is just a little um, subversive for a tattoo. I mean, I'm all for tattoos, but one day, you might just want to stop answering the question that you will hear for the rest of your life, "Hi. You have a suicidal robot on your back; why is that".
Honestly, I'm partial to the Grapes of Wrath.
I think that getting a tattoo should be somewhat of a personal decision. I think that most, if not all tats should have somesort of meaningfulness behind them. Its great that you want a second opinion but ultimately, the decision should be your own...after all, it will be on your body for the rest of your life.
Gino, this is for the rest of your life, man -- get a monkey robot. Robots may be the shit, but so are monkeys.
Sourpuss anybody who thinks that "adults" shouldn't get tattoos of robots on themselves is a retard. No offense :-)
Gino I say you should get them both. You can never have too many robot tattoos, it's mathematically impossible.
GINO! THORG SAY GET ORIGINAL PIECE!!!
Rock the Robots! The I/O Jima pic is awesome! There is nothing wrong with getting a tatoo, it's also a good conversation starter. My husband loves showing off his Bert and Ernie tatoo (on his right bicep).
Boy, when I read "pick a tattoo" I was picturing picking the scabs on a two-day-old piece of ink, not voting on a potential tat.
Personally I love Eric Joyner's robot art, but I don't think it'll translate well into ink on flesh. Tattoos of paintings usually look like shit in my book.
I say the I/O JIMA one. :D
I think Iwo Jima is the best.
Or a donut car.
Or a cheese-bot.
What is an Iwo Jima, any way?
I'm only 12!
I say take the theme of tin robots and go from there.
I agree with the many opinions that background-heavy or worse background-dependent images won't work as well.
This may seem entirely overdone and rather trite, but I say take the rock-em-sock-em robots idea, and turn it into a bicep tattoo, with just the upper portion of one of the robots, looking outward and "flexing."
That way, it's ironic, because it seems like an overdone concept, but it's actually a kick ass robot. To make it even more ironic, maybe you could draw a tattoo on the robot's arm of a human flexing. Or something.
Silly me, I just found "Smackdown" from 2004. Something like what the red robot looks like there.
mmmm. It would really depend. I mean, the more emo way to go would be This is This. If you don't fancy slanting black hair and dark corners, and your country (or a huge donut on a flag) is more of your thing, then I would totally reccomnd the I/O Jima. Personally, I like the I/O Jima better.
I like the Iwo Jim one much more, but I think that's because I'm a happy person, and robot suicide makes me sad!
For the sake of all that is holy, don't get a stupid robot tattoo. I recommend you try to keep the fact that you're an idiot secret for as long as possible. I was an idiot teenager too, but I got a little better and I don't have a tattoo to constantly remind me of my stupidity.
in response to Hi! Cheese is Mees!
if you dont know what iwo jima is, shame on you! please, dont make yourself sound like a stupid little kid, it just makes everyone your age look worse.
as for the tat:
are we considering just the figures, or the whole painting with background? the background, while awesome in real life, would look terrible on someone's back
i think it would be better to just get a single robot on either the upper or lower back, not a full-scale skin painting
but that's just my opinion.
you dont need any copyright bullshit to get a tattoo. its not for resale! unless of course you die and they skin you like the nazis did and make lamps or walets from your skin that has ink on it. tattoos arnt a faze they are a way of life... you live one life in one body how are you gonna decorate it?
should i write picasso before i tattoo his work on me, oh wait hes dead.
I'll tell you guys, I am a HUGE fan of robots. I love the crap out of them, and I am considering the Final Blow. I suppose that this tattoo is a little bit random, but that's how I am. I don't mind having something sweet that I can be proud of long into the future. Thanks a lot for helping me out so far, I really appreciate it.
Oh, by the way, this is going to be full color, hopefully fairly large, and it will be done by one of the best tattoo artists in Syracuse (he's booked about a month and a half in advance).
I/O Jima is slightly less depressing.
HAPPY 25TH BIRTHDAY TO ME!
I'm a little offended by Sidney....I got my first tattoo just a short 6 months ago...I'm 33...married, 3 kids and a preschool teacher for 12 years....tats are not a phase nor are they a reflection of you on a job interview unless you have them on your face or in a visible spot. My supervisors and my superintendant know about my tat,,,,and none of them care. No, I don't show it to the kids or the parents...but if they asked me if I had one, I'd say yep....Mine's a dragonfly. But my next one....maybe a robot...
I'd get the tattoo artist's opinion first.
I say go for it. And post pics please.
i like the I/O JIMA pic better because it shows accomplishment which can be your guide in life to do your best vs. the THIS IS THIS which, by the robot having hung himself, is a sign of giving up. you've graduated and moved up a notch in this world... that's an accomplishment! best of luck!
(i have tats of my own so beware... they're addicting!) :-) be sure to post pics!
"The Offering" and "The Introduction" would also be great... if you end up needing something a wee less complicated. lol... i am so stoked for you! makes me wanna go get another! :-)
This Is This has no donut. Therefore, the answer is simple: I/O Jima.
It's Gino's body and if he wants to do it, then I'd say 'go for it, dude!' However, I've been debating about getting a tatoo myself. I was told to think about it for ONE YEAR. If I was still jazzed about the design after one year, then I should do it. Although it would be kick ass to get one, I can't imagine being an 80 year old grandma with a tatoo...
I think the idea of a robot tattoo is awesome I don't care which one just as long as The Sneeze returns with some updates!
A tattoo is a serious commitment and generally should have some kind of meaning to the person who gets it, so I'd take into consideration when deciding which one you want to get. Personally I think that I/O Jima is more hopeful and projects a more positive feeling while This is This is rather depressing. But seriously, when it comes down to it, this is for you. Good luck with it!
I think you should go with something simple, that you can show off without having to explain the crap out of every time somebody sees it. You should be able to show it off by just walking around and having people see it and enjoy it with no explanation necessary. People should say "cool tattoo, man!" not ask for an explanation.
Whichever one you pick, be sure to pay Joyner a proper copyright licensing fee.
I agree with everyone who said take the robot concept and simplify. All of Eric Joyner's art is cool....but is it able to be translated into a tattoo as is ...I'm not so sure. Take some of the stuff you like to your tattoo artist and see what he/she thinks. Also, just because they are the best tattoo artist in your area, doesn't mean they are the best for the particular style of work you want done. Check out portfolios.
And as for what Sidney said: More than half of my friends and family are inked....they are all gainfully employed. I have three tattoos myself and still function quite well in society, thankyouverymuch.
I also want to add myself to the list of women who would appreciate a robot tattoo.
I/O Jima + Tattoo = win x awesome^3
Tattoos on guys named Gino = win as well
Also good idea "Robo Kong"
Neither. they'd both make horrible tatoos
And cheese is mees, please shut up. I happen to be twelve myself, and that's just adding to the stereotypes od people have about us.
I'd recommend a bacon wallet tat.
Nice ink, that.
I know lots of guys with tats that are doing fine running their own company. Maybe because easy jobinterviews didn't trap them in employment/slavery.
Go get the tat you want. I'd say the top one cuz I like happy tats more than suicide ones. Just make sure you go to a GOOD tattoo artist. Don't try to go cheap on this one ;-)
I'm just happy to hear this dude isn't just picking something off of the tattoo parlor wall.
I always thought a big tattoo of a lion's head would be pretty badass. But if I had to choose, I'd go This is This.
The This is This makes me sad. I don't like seeing sad robots. Or hanging robots for that matter. Boo.
just weighing in again: I agree with the peopel who point out that these are going to require a lot of constant explanation, sometimes to someone who is pretty upset. Right or wrong, Vet's reaction is going to happen a number of times, guaranteed-- and in person, and in reaction to an actual tattoo on your actual skin, not just the idea of one.
Also, I am not a war or history buff but honestly I/O jima does seem a little hard to swallow. 6 thousand americans died, 22 thousand japanese (due to effective propaganda that made them think the americans would torture and kill them) in a battle with dubious tactical value... it's a really sad story of too many people dying for too little. A cartoon tat version of that... well, I guess I'm just saying you should read a couple different sources about the battle of Iwo Jima before getting inked up.
Between Rounds, The Executioner is a Keen Shaver, Red Rider or Desert Rider would all lend themselves as excellent subjects of a tatoo. Remember that the detail will be lost, so you have to decide which painting still conveys it's feel in an outline. Also, have a good, personal reason for choosing the tatoo. A lot of us went through a phase where we thought of branding ourselves with a popculture reference, then later grew out of it. DON'T LET THE FACT THAT YOU POSTED TO THIS BLOG MAKE YOU FEEL OBLIGATED TO CARY THROUGH WITH THIS. IF YOU HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART, A MILLION BUCKS SAYS THAT STEVE WILL BACK YOU 100%.
for those of you commenting on sidney's post.. he/she is a "trolls"
Please don't feed the trolls.
My favorite piece is the one that looks like a hard-core version of rock-'em sock-'em robots.
That's the one I'd go with.
I got a tatoo on my back that went up to my hairline, went in for a job interview and the guy saw it on my way out, commented on it and I never heard from them again. I took a job at some crap place where I work now and feel trapped.
I am looking into getting it removed so people will take me seriously. I have outgrown the need to advertize what I stand for all over my back. If someone wants to know me from the inside out, well, they are just going to have to actually TALK to me, I do not want to "give it all away" by just them looking at me. I am not a book to read and be judged immediately.
just MY experience.
sure you wouldn't like a Typetopus on that arm of yours?
i think you should do both one on each arm or one on each shoulder....
Gino, this is an awesome idea, and I agree - Robots are the shit.
Will this be a full back piece? I vote for I/O Jima, but wonder if it will "read well" as a tattoo. It's pretty detailed.
I took a look at Eric Joyner's website (that guy's brain must be a freaky and wonderful place!) and I would like to suggest The Introduction, a piece from the rock 'em sock 'em robot series. It's pretty fierce and would make a great tattoo.
Seth, Anja and the others who think it's uncool to suggest checking with the artist before using his art: Don't be idiots. Eric Joyner is definitely directly involved with this site. It would be hugely disrespectful to advertise that you're going to get a tattoo of his art and not at least make sure it's OK. He's GOING to know about it (as evident from his participation here).
You want to copy the artwork of Picasso or something for a tattoo, knock yourself out--he's dead, and there's no way you could check with him if he's alive. But Eric's RIGHT HERE.
Where's the harm in checking that he's OK with it?
I really like Althea 's idea of putting the string under the hair line!!
Unless you have a pro like someone from Miami Ink doing this tat, I would go with a custom tat.
(for the This is This tat!! )
1. Robot tattoos are (a) awesome, (b) will attract the 'tang, (c) will have little to no effect on your career if you are otherwise a good employee.
2. Unable to resist a donut flag, I too voted for I/O.
3. Is there anyway you can work a unicorn into this tattoo? If so, you sir, are my soulmate.
I think the idea of getting a robot tattoo is really cool but I see one problem with it. I have a tattoo that has some of the same colors and over time they don't really do that well. I think with all the detail and stuff in the tattoo it probably won't age very well at all and you don't want to get a tattoo of an Artist's work that you really like and have it look crappy in a few years. That would be a disservice to you and him. Maybe you could find one of his pieces that is a little less detailed that would age better and work better overall as a tattoo.
Having a tattoo does not reflect or define sexuality or the possibility of imprisonment. Getting a tattoo at a young age does not mean it's a phase and you won't like it when you're older nor that it is a stupid thing to do. A lot of the people who have posted seem to be extremely judgemental, closeminded and...that last identifier escapes me but I know I had another one. Anyway, you don't want to listen to someone who tries to tell you who or what you are or where your life will lead you as you grow, mature and evolve from a just-out-of-HS guy to a wrinkly old man. It is my belief that they only use such defensive arguments because they have no valid reason to dispute getting a tattoo or a tattoo of a robot or these specific designs other than THEY don't like it. It's not gonna be on them and they don't ever HAVE to see it.
Some people do have good points though. You will age and become a wrinkly old man, the designs lines will fade and blur but that is just a matter of you thinking it through thoroughly and deciding how you will handle these circumstances when they arise. Will you have it retouched, will you even care about it when it happens? You may even decide to remove it before your skin begins to sag and droop if you truly hated it. Having heard what the artist has to say is a plus but once you've chosen your design take it in to a tattoo artist and have him evaluate it and give you feedback as well as all the information he/she can regarding a tattoo and what to expect as time goes on so that you are as well prepared as possible. Don't rush into it although I can see from your post and asking our involvment that you aren't.
Ultimately the decision IS yours.
Research the tattoo artists in your area. Check out their individual work, ask to see portfilios and such. Check online, watch Miami Ink if you can or something like it to ensure you have at least an idea of what to expect from the quality of the artists work.
And to those comments of how bad an idea this is, I admire you Gino for not walking into the first tattoo parlor you found and picking the first design off the wall that kinda tickles your fancy.
For the comments stating how the chosen designs are in such bad taste and you will either result to violence or snubbing of Gino if he gets such deisign or a tattoo at all, how do you handle those who have not included you in their desicion and have gotten tattoos that are much more offensive, juvenile and immature. Considering the freedom that we have and the amount of people who do have carelessly chosen tattoos, a tattoo shouldn't be an issue when it comes to relationships, marriage and commitment but for the sake of argument I would much rather be with a guy who has thought out his tattoo of a robot and made a smart educated decision when he got it than *one who got a half-assed tattoo of his childhood nickname or first girlfriend done by "that one guy, one day at that place". (*For those who may take offense on THAT comment: Hey! I didn't say it was a bad thing, just not preferred by me if it was ever important enough to be an issue. It depicts and captures You at that time and hopefully allows you something to reflect on for encouragement to strive for better in your future. A coverup tattoo over the name of your highschool girlfriend may be another important right of passage in your life.)
I opt for I/O Gima of the two you have given. Its patriotic (my interpretation) and a popular/common reference...without the background (clouds) and I'm sure a good tattoo artist can work out something with the rocks on the bottom. I also like the one with the flaming donuts..."Surrounded"(? I didn't see titles for the works but I saw it mentioned on a post before).
I have one tattoo of a rose around a dagger that I got at the age of 18. Noone can see it unless I'm at the pool...maybe or if they have special privileges. I have a custom piece in progress and the artist has been working with me for the past year. I want it and the artwork is great but I don't feel comfortable enough with it to say its skin/permanent quality for me. I experienced something recently that gave me an idea that I think was the missing piece on my custom and why it didn't quite fit me. I feel confident that this change will make it perfect though and at 25 I will be sportin my second great tat.
Take you time but go for it once you know it's what you want even if that's only immediate desire. There is no way of knowing exactly what you will want or like next year, at 35 or at the age of 89 1/2.
Wishing you luck and clarity and looking forward to seeing the finished project!!
Might I suggest "The Offering" from 2005? Could also make a good tattoo (composition-wise)...and, it's a little bit more artsy-surreal topically?? Just a suggestion, if not, I voted for I/O Jima ;-)
I'd strongly vote you commission Eric Joyner to do something custom for you. It's his idea you love and he deserves to be paid for that. And tho I don't know him, I suspect he'd do something designed for skin (as best he can and then customized by your tattoo artist) and priced fair since what you're doing is cool.
That way you get something personal and meaningful and unique. Eric gets a few bucks. Everyone wins.
I agree with the people who say that these pieces don't really seem like they'd make great tattoos. If you could commission him to do something custom, that would be awesome.
This is this, totally. I wouldnt get one like that, but whatever......
Hey Gino, just to be perfectly clear, you have my permission~! Thanks to all who are concerned about my rights as an artist though:)
As for doing a custom work of art for you, I'm booked up for the next 16 months.
I like the other paintings people have suggested for tattoos! Now I'm thinking about getting one!
I like the I/O Jima, but in deference to the real life guys who real life hurt or died for something that at least some of them believed in ... please only do the I/O Jima if you are in decent physical shape and seriously plan on staying that way. I don't think you need to fool anyone that you are a Marine (although if you are, the I/O Jima is a no-brainer); but I think that that tattoo on a blobby fat guy would be a disrespect given that This is This is almost as good. Just my opinion...
At 135 comments I am way too lazy to read them all...
I give My vote to Jima... Not just cause I am a former Marine, but because it is the symbol of a new start.... This is This is obviously the symbol of the end... and at 17 or 18, you can't even see then end, you really shouldn't be thinking about it...
Thanks for everyone giving me such great feedback! I have to say, there were many good points and it made me think a lot. Since Eric is booked so far in advance, it would be a while before I'd be able to have the work done. Plus, since his work is so intricate (kick ass), I fear that I might ruin something if I get one of those tattoos done. However, I thought of a 3 part tattoo plan.
Step 1: I get the blue Rockem Sockem robot on my right arm.
Step 2: I get the red Rockem Sockem robot on my left arm.
Step 3: I get a tattoo of them duking it out right in the middle of my back, complete with donuts flying around in the melee.
It shouldn't be as hard as the two I was thinking, and in addition, it wouldn't get me beat to a pulp by angry military folks/emo nihilists. This way, everyone wins.
And if Eric wants me to pay some kind of royalty, I would be way more than willing to, as long as it doesn't cost all of my tattoo cash.
I think it depends on your personality. If you're kind of a bad a$$, go with the This is This. If you're more fun and fancy free, go with I/O Jima.
...Rockem Sockem robots? Really? Out of all the robots to choose?
huh. okay. i am definitely not a tatoo person.
I chose I/O Jima because it would make a prettier tat, much more artistic in my opinion. As for ideas, Johnny Socko, 60's Japanese live action series, now he was cool. And let's not leave out, "Danger Will Robinson! Danger!" And Ultra Man...
I think the second one is a little morbid for my tastes. Great idea, though - all the best!
make a whole new one just for his tattoo!!